Monday, October 1, 2007

Donald Armstrong...SC Recommends Defrock

Please see the details here:

http://www.coloradodiocese.org/06_newsandevents/PDFs/ec_finaljudgement.pdf

The decision of the Standing Committee is final, meaning the will no longer be deliberating.
The Bishop has 30 days to announce the final sentence.
Donald has two weeks to respond in some constructive manner to try to influence the Bishop's announcement, which can have a result as severe or less so than the sentence of the Standing Committee.

Let me see, that puts us at about...Halloween...at the latest.
Do you suppose our Bishop has a sense of humor?

Opinions?

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

One more step forward and a very welcome step. Now if the police investigator would just finish his investigation. One way or another. The property dispute drags on and I'm sure Don will repeat his opinion of this process, but he will certainly cash his retirement checks from the EPISCOPAL church when they start arriving. He didn't mind his status as an Episcopal priest for more than 25 years. It was only after things got hot in the kitchen the last few years that he has turned his back on his ordination vows and his bishop. And much of the heat was of his own doing.

Anonymous said...

Logical conclusion here. The diocese is certainly taking its sweet time hoping for a change on Tejon St., won't happen. Financial issues aside, Don is certainly guilty of abandoning his ordained ministry, all those vows and promises and stuff. Interesting how CANA, and the Global South people, want to make new rules, and presumably enforce them, about who is and who is not an Anglican. Yet so many of them, including Don, couldn't bother following the time-tested rules and formulas for leaving his church. And then there are the financial issues. And speaking of abandoning ministry, what's up with Zolner? I can't imagine he is a priest in good standing in the Episcopal Church.

Anonymous said...

Without criminal or legal action saying the same thing, what does it matter what the SC or Bishop determine?

Grace Concerns said...

One way to look at this is that there is very little another agency can do if the ecclesiastical actions are not completed (i.e., why would the police care if the church itself does not appear to). Looks like we are almost there with the diocesan atuff, so perhaps the civil, criminal stuff will pick up after this month.

Anonymous said...

Take a look at Constitution and Canons (2006 has been published and is available) for TEC. Even though the CANA folks seem to make up their own rules, Bp. O and CO diocese are following established guidelines--Title IV-Ecclesiastical Discipline.

Anonymous said...

ok folks, I need some help here, and surely this is the site to find it. The obvious next step for the Diocese is to depose, (defrock), Fr Armstrong. Apparently he is looking forward to it and will wear it as a badge of honor. He proudly states that he is now a priest in CANA. However, he did not use the the customary methods of leaving his previous church, nor did the current one use the proper methods of acquiring him. CANA is not in communion with the See of Canterbury, only with the Diocese of Nigeria. I think it is obvious that he is not the "Anglican" priest he claims to be. A case can also be made that he is still a priest in the Diocese of Colorado, since he didn't leave it properly, and thus, when he is deposed, he is no longer a priest at all. CANA may take him, but what good will that do? I'm sure that I'm missing something here, but it seems that the people still on Tejon ought to be concerned about things like Baptism, weddings and such, not to mention Sunday Communion.

Grace Concerns said...

It may be easier than we are thinking. Check this out:

http://www.themonastery.org/?destination=ordination

The FAQ's are interesting on the marriage topic. "Ministry Products" is an intersting term. I think I'll stop at that...20,000,000 served...uh, I mean "ordained".

Anonymous said...

ah yes, the good old Universal Life Church. I had a buddy in high school (well into the last century), who spent something like 5 bucks to get ordained. He said it wasn't worth it though, the chicks still weren't interested in him. So is this how they do it?

Joan Lucia-Treese said...

As to Zolner... I thought he became a CANA priest also.

CANA clergy are NOT in Communion with Canterbury. The ABC has not invited any CANA clergy to Lambeth. As usual for Don, the "rules" don't apply to him. He makes his own rules to fit his needs and desires.

Depending what happens when criminal charges are filed, Don may not see one red cent of his retirement money from TEC!

Anonymous said...

Joan-
Don will get his retirement, in full. Federal laws shield retirement accounts pretty well. I imagine that OJ will get his also, if he has one. This might be why Armstrong and Zolner are still officially priests of TEC. The safety and security of a retirement account in Denver is probably better than if the cash was in Nigeria. Funny, they can't stand the theology, but the money management skills are excellent. I wouldn't be surprised if Tejon St is still sending money to Denver for these accounts, makes you chuckle.........

Joan Lucia-Treese said...

James~ As we discussed earlier, there may be a chance of tapping into the retirement account if Don's faces criminal charges. It really depends upon how the accounts are set up at 815. Yes, I do love that he hates TEC but will gladly take its money. Of course I'm sure in Don's mind, he's "earned" the money. You've just got to love the irony!

Until Don & Zolner are defrocked or request removal from the rolls, 815 will still list them as clergy.

I'd have the attorneys check for Cayman Island bank accounts and other off-shore locations!

Keep the faith and prayers ascending!